青蛙论坛 - Tokina: AT-X 242 AF 24-200mm f/3.5-5.6 评论

08-08-2001, 10:59	#1
茄子谁拿走了奶酪!!! 注册日期: Jul 2001 来自: 绅镇帖子: 1,274 精华: 0	Tokina: AT-X 242 AF 24-200mm f/3.5-5.6 评论摘自国外的BBS: http://www.photographyreview.com/re...roduct_6558.asp Description: The AT-X 242 AF is the first lens to start at 24mm and zoom all the way to 200mm, and is currently the widest zoom range available starting at 24mm. It is constructed using a chrome plated brass mount plate and a combination of aluminum and composite lens barrels to reduce weight while maintaining strength and durability. 概述: AT-X-242是第一只24mm-200mm全程变焦的镜头, 也是目前24mm焦距起始变焦范围最宽的镜头. 结构上, 它采用镀铬黄铜作安装卡口, 铝合金作镜筒, 减轻了重量而保证了强度和耐用性 Features: Internal focusing Aperture range: f/3.5-22 Min focus: 0.8m (2.9 ft.) 特点: 内对焦光圈范围: f/3.5-22 最近对焦: 0.8m (2.9码) 上传的图像 __________________ 色海无涯回头是岸此帖于 08-08-2001 11:01 被茄子编辑.

08-08-2001, 11:19

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Submitted by Rey Orara , Date Reviewed: 7/25/01 9:36:44 AM
Professional photographer from San Diego.
With 11-20 years experience in People photography.
Price Paid: $329
Purchased At: Adorama

这是由圣迭哥专业摄影师Rey Orara提交的评论, 他有10多年摄影经验. 这只镜头是在ADORAMA买的, 花了329美元.

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Strengths:
Made Well
24-200
Inter-focus Mech.
优点:
做工很好
24-200焦段
内对焦
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Weaknesses:
Seems people are complaining of its size.
I think of it this way. IT'S SMALLER THEN 3 LENSES!!!
缺点:
好象有人对它的体积有意见, 俺的看法是:它比3只镜头小!
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Other Products Used:
用过的其它镜头有:
Tamron 28-200
Tokina's 80-400
Canon 28-70 L
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Customer Service:
客户服务:
None.
不需要
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Review Summary:
It's a great lens. My opinion it out performed Tameron's 24-135 and It's less expensive Plus offers a greater range. I upgraded from Tamron's 28-200 and I'm very happy of my decision. Buy this lens before prices go up. (it's a BIG lens)
总体评价:

非常好的镜头. 俺看它比腾龙的24-135表现好又更便宜, 还有更宽的焦段. 俺是从腾龙28-200升级过来的, 俺很满意俺的决定. 要涨价了, 快买呀!

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08-08-2001, 11:35

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Submitted by Ed Brillhart , Date Reviewed: 7/9/01 11:28:12 AM
Intermediate photographer from Texas.
With 11-20 years experience in photography.
Purchased At: Metro Photo

由德克萨斯媒体摄影师Ed Brillhart提交, 他有10多年经验.

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Strengths:
24-200mm is a definite strength. Autofocus is very fast and the lens is made extremely well.
优点:
24-200mm巨爽, 对焦快, 做工极好
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Weaknesses:
The lens is a little heavy but that should be expected considering the zoom range and the build quality.
缺点:
有点点沉, 很厚实, 考虑到它的做工和变焦范围, 情有可原
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Other Products Used:
Olympus and Canon zooms.
用过的其它产品:
Olympus 和 Canon 变焦
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Customer Service:
I've only shot four rolls of film with this lens so no customer service has been needed.
客户服务:
俺只咔嚓了4卷, 所以不需要什么服务
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Review Summary:
Bottom line is that I have to agree with the other 3 reviewers and rate this lens a 5. I have only taken prints with the lens and most of them have turned out perfect. Slides may show some problems but prints certainly do not.
总体评价:

俺看到楼上几位的帖子, 俺至少同意他们的看法. 俺的照片只是印刷用, 多数照片很完美, 幻灯片可能会看出一些问题, 但印刷肯定不会.

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08-08-2001, 11:57

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Submitted by Tom Payne , Date Reviewed: 6/21/01 6:30:35 PM
Intermediate photographer from Wichita Falls, Texas.
With 21+ years experience in People photography.
由德州媒体摄影师Tom Payne提交, 他有20多年摄影经验.

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Strengths:
Too many to mention. The lens is very well made and the Zoom range is unmatched by anything else on the market.
优点:
要说的有很多. 这只镜头做工非常好, 它的变焦焦距是市面上无敌的.
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Weaknesses:
A little heavy
缺点:
有点沉
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Other Products Used:
several zooms in the 28-200 range
其它东东:
28-200范围内许多变焦头
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Customer Service:
Not needed. I've only had the lens for about three months
客户服务:
不需要, 俺才买来3个月呢
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Review Summary:
Up until recently it's been hard to find a review of this lens and I don't know what the professionals are going to say about it in the different photo magazines, but from this amatures point of view, this is an excellent lens.

总体评价:

到目前为止, 很难找到评论文章, 俺不知道杂志上的专家怎么看, 从业余角度看, 这是只非常优秀的镜头.

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08-08-2001, 12:09

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Submitted by brandon Jr. Searn , Date Reviewed: 6/18/01 8:20:50 AM
Expert photographer from LA.
With 6-10 years experience in People photography.
由路易斯安娜州摄影师brandon Jr. Searn提交, 他有5年以上经验

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Strengths:
good focus range!!
great built(like an iron)!!
very useful!
smooth!
it is feel so good! Since I have this one , everything is ok! wonderful!!
at 24mm is so sharp! no vin.
nice price !!
very fast!!
优点:
好焦段, 好做工(象一砣铁), 很实用, 顺畅, 感觉巨爽! 俺有了它什么都好, 太奇妙了, 24mm端很锐, 没有暗角, 好价格, 速度快
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Weaknesses:
heavy weight!!
filter size!! (72mm)
缺点: 重量和滤镜口径(72mm)
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Other Products Used:
f5
n80
f3hp
35~70 2.8d
20mm f2.8d
mf 16mm f2.8
mf 600mm f4 ed
af 80~200mm 2.8 N. ed
others 50mm af,mf
其它用过产品:
NIKON F5, F80, F3HP, NIKKOR 35~70/2.8D, 20mm/f2.8D, MF 16mm/f2.8, MF 600mm/f4ED, AF 80~200mm/f2.8 N. ED
其它的 50mm AF, MF

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Customer Service:

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Review Summary:
it is wonderful choice!! nice price than similar zoom lens. I'll drift U.S. and alway it'll be my bag!!
总体评价:

好好精彩的选择耶! 相对类似的变焦镜, 价格非常好的, 俺周游全美, 它总是在俺包包里

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08-08-2001, 12:17

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Submitted by Tim Majors , Date Reviewed: 5/31/01 8:58:18 AM
Expert photographer from Cincinnati.
With 21+ years experience in Outdoor photography.
Price Paid: $400
Purchased At: Provident Camera Shop
由辛辛那提专业摄影师Tim Majors提交, 他有20多年经验, 花了400美刀

引用:

Strengths:
Zoom range
Sharp for this kind of lense.
Built well
优点:
变焦范围, 同类镜头中表现锐利, 好做工
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Weaknesses:
none
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Other Products Used:
其它用过的镜头:
nikon 24-120
nikon 24-85
nikon 17-35 afs
nikon 28-70 afs
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Customer Service:
N/A
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Review Summary:
This lens is a winner. On the Nikon D1 it is flawless. Great value for the $. The lens is built as good as top line nikon Zooms. Nice heavy, sturdy. Makes very sharp prints through out zoom range. Better than average autofocus speed. Bright and easy focus through view finder.
总体评价:

这只镜头是成功的, 在NIKON D1上没任何问题. 太好的价格了. 做工可以跟NIKON顶级变焦头比. 坚固厚实. 在整个变焦焦段可以印刷出锐利的图片. 比普通AF变焦速度好些, 取景器看起也很亮, 好对焦.

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08-08-2001, 12:25

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这是新泽西专业摄影师R.T. Williams评论NIKKOR 35-135时提到的看法, 他有20多年体育摄影经验.

Submitted by R.T. Williams , Date Reviewed: 4/13/01 10:45:52 PM
Expert photographer from N.J..
With 21+ years experience in Sports photography.
Price Paid: $369
Purchased At: Beach camera

引用:

Strengths:
Sharp, easy to use
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Weaknesses:
Doesn`t balance well, minimum focus distance to far.
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Other Products Used:
其它使用过的镜头:
TOKINA 24-200
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Customer Service:
Not used
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Review Summary:
This lens is excellent. I`ve used it at Englishtown (Drag Racing) and Pocono (Motorcycles). Never a problem, well made,focuses "right now" and is smooth. Recently purchased Tokina`s new lens 24-200mm 3.5-5.6 I needed something wider (car shows)and something with a little further reach. The Nikon 24-120 and the Tokina lens "balance" much better since their closer to the camera body.
总体评价:
NIKKOR AF35-135 非常好, 俺在 Englishtown (Drag Racing) 和 Pocono (Motorcycles)用过它, 从没出问题. 最近买了图丽的新镜头24-200, 俺需要更广一点, 更远一点. NIKON24-120和TOKINA 24-200平衡感很好, 它们跟机身差不多沉.

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08-08-2001, 12:39	#8
RK 独行注册日期: Dec 2000 来自: 飞来飞去，自由自在帖子: 1,344 精华: 0	完整URL为： http://www.photographyreview.com/re...roduct_6558.asp Photographyreview.com 是一个用户的使用评价网站，对购买器材有一定的参考作用。可惜是全英文的。茄子兄不妨把它们翻译成中文嘛！

08-08-2001, 12:40	#9
piloteer 注册用户注册日期: Apr 2001 来自: shanghai 帖子: 6,394 精华: 1	说的这么好，不会吧。

08-08-2001, 13:29	#10
guangjiao 注册用户注册日期: May 2001 帖子: 323 精华: 0	刚才去器材店顺便看了一下这支镜头。从外表来看，做工非常好，比尼康现在出的普及AF变焦镜头要强的多，据说它的镜桶部分采用了铝合金，重量接近700g，让人感觉很扎实。变焦环和对焦环手感很好，保持了图丽的一贯作风，用惯图丽的人不会有陌生感。它的变焦比大（5倍），滤镜的尺寸是72mm，但整体的体积也算紧凑，放在尼康F80上是不合比例的，但如果放在尼康F100上应该具有平衡感，放在尼康F5上也不错。用它作为一只大变焦比的旅游镜头来使用，应该是很超值的，现在的价格才2300人刀左右。当时店里只有一只EOS卡口的，无法放在尼康机身上测试它的对焦速度，但我相信它不会逊色于原厂的同档次镜头，我以前曾用过图丽的ATX235/3。5-4。5和ATX280/2。8，感觉对焦速度很不错，估计这支镜头也不会多少差别。图丽是与尼康风格最相象的副厂镜头。就目前各厂家出品的大变焦比普及AF镜头来看，图丽镜头具有相当大的市场竞争力。此帖于 08-08-2001 13:36 被 guangjiao 编辑.

08-08-2001, 14:13	#11
photoxu 黑碳会员注册日期: Jan 2001 来自: 上海帖子: 4,208 精华: 0	呵呵，茄子兄的翻译风格很逗，很有味道！ __________________ 要装修的看过来要看照片的点进来

08-08-2001, 14:30	#12
茄子谁拿走了奶酪!!! 注册日期: Jul 2001 来自: 绅镇帖子: 1,274 精华: 0	严重打倒! 光脚就升级到中级会员了. __________________ 色海无涯回头是岸

08-08-2001, 14:44	#13
guangjiao 注册用户注册日期: May 2001 帖子: 323 精华: 0	你不说我还没注意，恭喜我自己！革命尚未成功，茄子仍需努力。。。。

08-08-2001, 18:10	#14
茄子谁拿走了奶酪!!! 注册日期: Jul 2001 来自: 绅镇帖子: 1,274 精华: 0	俺那天替你看了一下, 也是那只EF卡口的, 同样因为俺不是CANON用家, 所以没上在机身上试. 俺感觉做工没的说, 不相信这是副厂的, 比现在NIKON业余的变焦感觉要好. 变焦环略有点涩, 但远胜于俺用过的SIGMA的镜头, 对焦环手感很好. 变焦到200mm时, 两节镜筒完全伸出, 感觉有点象TAMRON 28-200那样的, 但显得很结实, 一点都不松旷. 大概顾及到24mm广角端, 它的口径与NIKKOR 24-85以及24-120一样, 都是颇受批评的72mm, 估计做到62mm而保证同样像质是有很大困难的. 其实也有不少媒体提及这只镜头, 但坛子里讨论好象不多, 也许TOKINA的市场策划还要努力. __________________ 色海无涯回头是岸

08-08-2001, 19:24	#15
茄子谁拿走了奶酪!!! 注册日期: Jul 2001 来自: 绅镇帖子: 1,274 精华: 0	在光学结构上，AT-X242采用了由Hoya生产的高素质多层镀膜光学玻璃，其中有2片非球面镜片和1片SD镜片，非球面镜片是铸膜光学玻璃，而不是在玻璃基底上压铸光学树脂。为保证快速AF，采用了内调焦设计，从而72mm的滤光镜在对焦时不会转动。同时在MF环上有对焦距离刻度。与其他AT-X系列镜头一样，在变焦时，镜头的焦点不改变。镜头卡口： Canon EOS、Minolta AF、Nikon-D、Pentax AF 焦距： 24~ 200mm 最大光圈： f/3.5-5.6 最小光圈： f/22 光学结构： 15片/13组非球面镜片数： 2 SD镜片数量： 1 视角： 84°10’~12°20’ 最近对焦距离： 0.8m 最大放大倍率： 1:5.9 对焦系统：内调焦变焦系统：旋转光圈叶片数： 6 滤镜直径： 72mm 尺寸： 81.8mm x 89.1mm (D x L) 重量： 760g 附件：专用遮光罩 (BH-723)、软包看起来不错, 比TAMRON 28-200和24-135似乎好些, 而价格是在这二者之间, 是一镜走天涯的不错选择哦! __________________ 色海无涯回头是岸

08-09-2001, 08:56	#16
guangjiao 注册用户注册日期: May 2001 帖子: 323 精华: 0	小型化、轻量化和降低成本是未来器材发展的方向，所以现在不少大变焦比的普及型AF镜头用料都比以前节约了很多，做工也没以前精细了（我相信不少专业镜头也如此），图丽这支大变焦比镜头在激烈的竞争中仍能基本保持一贯作风，实属难得！我粗略比较了一下它和尼康AF28-105/3。5-4。5，两者价格相当，但尼康的做工明显不如图丽，传说尼康的不少普及型AF镜头都是另外厂家代工的，我看极有可能。那么，现在买的所谓原厂镜头，很有可能是一只副厂代工的镜头！而选择副厂镜头，才真正是本厂的产品。我玩器材比较保守，如果选择副厂镜头的话，只选图丽，毕竟它的风格与尼康最接近。喜欢一镜走天涯的影友，不妨考虑这支超级的图丽ATX242！

08-10-2001, 12:02	#17
茄子谁拿走了奶酪!!! 注册日期: Jul 2001 来自: 绅镇帖子: 1,274 精华: 0	奇怪, 俺怎么少了20多分, 又从中级会员退回到初级了 __________________ 色海无涯回头是岸

08-10-2001, 12:08	#18
老色虎虎啸蛙坛注册日期: Dec 2000 来自: 神针帖子: 6,709 精华: 0	靠！茄子又年轻了20岁啊？呵呵 __________________ 虎窝

08-10-2001, 23:52

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Submitted by Rodrigo Zuazua , Date Reviewed: 8/6/01 5:49:43 PM
Professional photographer from Mexico.
With 2-5 years experience in Outdoor photography.
Price Paid: $310
Purchased At: B&H
原由Rodrigo Zuazua提交, 他是来自墨西哥的有2年以上户外摄影的专业摄影师

引用:

Strengths:
Sturdy
Zooms stays in focal length whern pointed down
Good quality for a powerful zoom
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Weaknesses:
Heavy, but i dont care, I use it with an N90
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Other Products Used:
NIKON D 28-200
SIGMA IF MACRO 28-200
SIGMA MANUAL 24 mm
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Customer Service:
25 Rolls, not yet needed
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Review Summary:
Well Built, just as 28-200 Nikon D.
Good AF speed
Focuses down to .46 Meters at f22/24mm

总体评价:

做工好, 跟NIKKOR28-200D一样, 对焦速度快, f22/24mm最近对焦距离只有0.46米

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08-11-2001, 00:01

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Submitted by Rodrigo , Date Reviewed: 8/8/01 5:45:13 PM
Professional photographer from Mexico.
With 2-5 years experience in Fine Art photography.
Price Paid: $310
Purchased At: b&H
由楼下同一个老墨提交

引用:

Strengths:
Rugged (metal barrels)
Smoth zoom
Focuses Fast
All you need, exellent

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Weaknesses:
690 grams - but okey
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Other Products Used:
28-200 Nikon D
28-200 Sigma
24-120 Nikon D

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Customer Service:
not yet
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Review Summary:
Excellent choice. I was looking for a do it all lens. Although I used a Sigma and Nikon, 84 degrees(24 mm) lets you get in the frame a lot more than a 28 mm. Heavy and well constructed lens. Tokina says it has effective coatings that you can compare with the quality of the 28-200 asn 24-120 of Nikon. It has SLD wich reproduces sharp pictures even at 200mm. Tokina did a great job on this one, Great LENS!
总体评价:

买它是英明决策, 俺一直找只全能镜头. 俺过去用SIGMA和NIKON, 24mm比28mm收进更多东东. 图丽说它的镀膜能跟NIKON的28-200和24-120的质量一比. 它有低色散镜片, 200mm端都能照出很锐的片片. 图丽这只镜头确实做的很好.

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08-11-2001, 00:03	#21
茄子谁拿走了奶酪!!! 注册日期: Jul 2001 来自: 绅镇帖子: 1,274 精华: 0	看来俺成了枪手, 哈哈, 胜达的24-200很久没人问津, 今天俺去, 全卖光了, 正组织下一批进货俺希望早日看到好的试用报告或心得体会 __________________ 色海无涯回头是岸

08-11-2001, 00:05	#22
茄子谁拿走了奶酪!!! 注册日期: Jul 2001 来自: 绅镇帖子: 1,274 精华: 0	它的近照上传的图像 __________________ 色海无涯回头是岸

08-14-2001, 11:36

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Submitted by Mariusz , Date Reviewed: 8/10/01 12:19:58 PM
Expert photographer from Poland.
With 6-10 years experience in Outdoor photography.
Price Paid: $330
Purchased At: B&H

原由波兰资深摄影师Mariusz提交, 他有5年以上户外摄影经验, 花了US$330从B&H买得此头

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Strengths:
* Sharp pictures from 24mm all the way to 200mm! When you stop down to f8 this lens is very close to "L" zooms I've used ?simply unbelievable for this kind of a zoom?!
* Great contrast and saturation with print and slides
* Distortions is very well controlled under 1% at both ends
* No vignetting or flaring when stopped down to f5.6 or f8
* Quality is as good as Canon抯 "L" products ?simply excellent
* Very fast AF
* Great price
* 3 years warranty and a dedicated hood is included
* Works great with my Elan 7E
优点:
* 从24mm到200mm所有焦段都很锐利. 光圈收到f/8时跟俺用过L变焦头很接近. 真不敢相信是这样一只变焦头
* 很棒的反差和饱和度, 不管是出照片还是幻灯片
* 很体贴的价格
* 3年质保, 还送一个专用遮光罩
* 跟俺的EOS-30配合很好
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Weaknesses:
* This is one big heavy duty lens at 690g
* Large filters size 72mm
* Closer min. focusing would be nice but at 80cm still not bad
缺点:
* 690克重
* 72mm大的滤镜口径
* 最近对焦距离应该更好, 80cm还不算糟糕
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Other Products Used:
canon 28-105 3.5-4.5
canon 28-135 3.5-5.6
canon 100-300 5.6 L
canon 100-400 3.5-5.6L
canon 20-35 3.5-4.5
canon 28-70 L
其它用过的产品:
佳能 28-105/3.5-4.5, 28-135/3.5-5.6, 100-300/5.6L, 100-400/3.5-5.6L, 20-35/3.5-4.5, 28-70L
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Customer Service:
never had any problems
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Review Summary:
This super zoom is simply amazing in terms of its optics, functionality and quality. If you are looking for a true do-it-all lens it earns in my opinion top spot. I highly recommend it.
总体评价:
从它的光学/功能/制造品质上看它简直就是梦幻的超级变焦镜. 如果你要找一只真正的一镜解决产品, 它是俺印象中的冠军, 俺严重推荐它!

另外, 茄子抱歉地说, 楼下有些地方译错了, PRINT是指扩印照片, 不是印刷.

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色海无涯回头是岸

10-22-2001, 15:12	#24
h770115f 中级大考拉注册日期: Oct 2001 来自: 福建漳州帖子: 44 精华: 0	我只有ＦＥ１０，看看这个镜头从无穷远－０.８Ｍ角度太小，手动对焦可能有难度。我是不会买了，等我有Ｆ８０Ｓ再说。我的ＡＦ７５－２４０可把我害惨了。 __________________ FE10->F80S->F100->F5

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