问一个尼康小钢炮的问题
 

昨天在民生看到一支小刚炮， 是推拉式的那种， 但是没有三脚架接环。
是不是二代的小刚炮都没有脚架接环， 能另佩装上去吗？谢谢

兄弟,几钱哪?是第一代的还是第二代的?

一代二代怎么分？

好像2代是带D的,一代不带

那就是1代的
推拉式的， 几乎全新的
5000
你不会去下手吧 :D :D

别买。如果是第一代的4000都不值。

不是说一代的成像最好吗？

不完全是。XGP是新的比旧的好。

买了XGP，手动头怎么处理？

我是有个三代的，印象中腿拉的那个是一代的，加不了环的，9成新价应是3XXX左右。

不是我买， 帮mm买， 所以比较起劲 :D :D

有这么一段话，难道是我理解错了？？

Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 EDAF (non-D) Lens This old buzzard is one awesome lens.
I used to own the non-D version, which I used for many years. It was great,
but the lack of a tripod collar tore the hell out of the bayonet on my F4.
After 10 years, the idiots at Nikon finally realized it needed a tripod
collar, so they added one. Supposedly, they didn t change the optics, but
you d never prove that by me. The new D version sucks. The old one was the
sharpest zoom lens I ve ever used. It outperformed most Nikon primes in its
range except the 85/1.4 & 180/2.8. Better than 60 percent of my shots were
taken with this lens. Like an idiot, I thought the new version would be just
as good, but I should have known nothing Nikon makes today is worth owning.

Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 EDAF-D (w/ collar) Lens This lens has problems. As a 10
year owner of the old AF version, I thought there would be no difference.
Boy was I ever wrong. The newer one is mechanically nice, and the tripod
collar works quite well. The big problem is sharpness. This lens really
sucks when wide open at the 200mm end. Everything is soft and fuzzy. I have
no idea why this is, but I do know my old version was tack sharp wide open
at all focal lengths. Leave it to Nikon to screw up a good thing. I m not
the only one who has noticed this either.

Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 AF-S (w/ collar) Lens This lens is even worse than the
35-70/2.8 I bitch about above. Although I was never stupid enough to buy
one, one of my most trusted friends (a pro) did. He got so pissed off over
the poor performance of this lens that he bailed on Nikon and switched to
Canon. The main problem with this lens is vignetting. He showed me his
results and let me play with this lens. Here s an experiment for you: take
this lens, open it up to f2.8, point it straight up into the blue sky and
take a shot. When the slide comes back, you ll see terrible fall-off in the
corners (they re at least a full stop darker than the rest), and a huge
white donut in the center (probably 2 stops lighter than the rest). What the
hell is Nikon doing? They had a great thing with the oldest 80-200/2.8 AF
lens. Can they do nothing right these days?

一家之言。

不像， 我发现photographyreview上也有很多相同的论调。

俺也有关于XGP问题想问。

俺的XGP是二代，推拉变焦，有D，有ED，没脚架环。
当初NIKON出的轻量级的75-300/4.5-5.6倒是有脚架环，XGP就没有。现在第三代的XGP也加上了。请问各位用三代的，脚架环有用吗？方便性上会差吧？

一代带不带ed??
昨天看到的是带ed的， 是不是带d 记得了
一代二代外形上有差别吗？
如果是二代的话， 95新5000值吗?

tmd,我今天怎么这么罗嗦。:D :D

个人觉得脚架环肯定是有用的， 没有脚架环再用三脚架市重心不稳呀， 而且不够亮骚 :D :D

好像就我看到的,一代带ED不带D,二代带ED也带D,二代比一代漂亮,皱纹漆的.前几天在瑞记看到二代XGP带遮光罩,UV卖4800

一代5000也太贵了.现在全新的三代也不过6000左右了.runlong你还是不要拍这个马屁了.;)

你也是在民生看到的？

5000都太贵！连原厂遮光罩4500差不多:)

老大,你眼睛怎么比我还差.:p 我下面不是写了斗大的瑞记了吗?

AF和MF的XGP全有ED，AF的XGP的分代：
第一代是配F3AF，F4及F801，F601，F501，F401推出的，无D，单环，无脚架环，大而重；
第二代是配F90，F90X，F70，F50推出的，带D，单环，无脚架环，重量变轻了；
第三代在F5，F60前后推出，带D，双环，有脚架环，重量基本同二代；
第四代配F100，F80，F65推出，带D，双环，内置超声波马达，有脚架环，重量大增，好象比一代还重。
配F3，FM2，FE2的MF的XGP基本同一代。

大错特错!:D:D:D
第1代,第2代,第3代,第4代AF小钢炮都不能和F3AF配合实现AF.F3AF只能配AF80/2.8,AF200/3.5IF-ED.
AF的XGP中,第4代最重!
"配F3，FM2，FE2的MF的XGP基本同一代。"
你见过MF80-200/2.8ED嘛!?
MF80-200/2.8ED是最重,最大的!单环,有三角架接环,只比300/2.8小一点点.比80-200/2.8AF-S还大很多很多!

第1代的3000都不一定值.
成像未必比第2代,第3代,第4代好.5000实在是太贵了!

第四代是指AFS的XGP吧？

是的.
AF的XGP:
第1代:80-200/2.8ED.
第2代:80-200/2.8ED-D
第3代:80-200/2.8EN-D-N
第4代:80-200/2.8ED-S

第1代

第2代.

第3代.

第4代.

哦~~~ 知道了， 我不去毒害mm了:(

我手里有MF的80-200/2.8的照片.可惜,不能扫上去.:(:(

应该用80－400VR来毒害:p

80-400VR是ZGG心中永远的情人了。到底啥时候上啊？:D:D:D

80-400好!我喜欢!后悔买XGP了.:(